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declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice case and chuck hagel case, if they were sure that is who they were going to nominate, i think it should have been done promptly but all these sort of test nominations that they send out there, i think just cause the media to naturally focus on it and potential opponents of that nomination just pile on. >> outgoing secretary of state hillary clinton, she is facing pressure to testify on the benghazi matter. do you think that benghazi episode is a blot on her record as secretary of state? do you think it will affect her political future? >> i don't think so. i don't know what she knew about it or didn't know a
declined to have it over susan rice. what was your view of her treatment in this whole process? >> i think it was not handled well. one of the problems with ambassador rice and chuck hagel, these signals come out saying this is who we are thinking about and you are left out there to dangle for weeks. well, if this is who you are going to nominate you nominate them and let's get on with the process. >> you feel like the president hung her out to dry? >> in both the susan rice...
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one of the reasons he's stuck with hagel is he ditched susan rice. there was a sense you couldn't pull the plug on two consecutive nominees. that doesn't mean he was backing hagel once to begin with. but once the name was floated out there, it would look bad if he pulled the plog plug on him. >> is that reporting or is that -- >> that's reporting. >> good for you. the president was sort of preparing the battlefield. if there's a failure to pay bills, don't look at both sides. none of the malarkey and cliches. will that work its way into news coverage? will people begin to buy the president's shaping of the battlefield? >> well, it seems like that has happened every time. that republicans get more of the blame when we have these sorts of, you know, end of the night deals that have to get made. because they have been doing a bit of foot dragging. so he definitely is laying down the rhetoric. i think one of the things he said in that process conference which i think people will resonate with which is this idea if you go out and buy an expensive meal, yo
one of the reasons he's stuck with hagel is he ditched susan rice. there was a sense you couldn't pull the plug on two consecutive nominees. that doesn't mean he was backing hagel once to begin with. but once the name was floated out there, it would look bad if he pulled the plog plug on him. >> is that reporting or is that -- >> that's reporting. >> good for you. the president was sort of preparing the battlefield. if there's a failure to pay bills, don't look at both sides....
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first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there are certain things about chuck hagel's resume that set with what he wants to do with defense. cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right and he wouldn't have picked him in the second term unless he thought they were in sync on the larger philosophy of what they want. for the american force in the world. chris: a real statement picking this guy? >> he also thought he would give him cover on the necessary defense reductions. he's a republican. therefore, he helps them with that. that's pretty much shot. chuck hagel is no longer seen as a republican. he's seen as a -- an outliar. chris: let's talk about guns. this is tough. guns. can he get something? can he get something big? >> you're seeing that argument sort of play out right now in t
first of all it wouldn't look good if he backed down after what happened to susan rice and i think he thinks he can win this. and there are certain things about chuck hagel's resume that set with what he wants to do with defense. cutting defense spending, that sort of thing. it makes sense so he's going to stick with his pick. chris: is hagel, barack obama with a war record, is he really the guy that -- that obama has been hiding, more liberal on foreign policy? >> i believe that's right...
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susan rice was too much of a loyalist, and republicans called for someone of independence. chuck hagel, however, has too much of his own voice and is outside of the mainstream. while it remains unclear whether anyone will ever be just right for the gop, perhaps a party nay sayers have forgotten the fundamental truth about this nomination. for his part robert gates, former defense secretary under george w. bush and president obama has not. speaking to hagel's nomination gates said, "while there are issues on which i have disagreed with him, such as the 2007 surge in iraq, he is a man of complete integrity and deep patriotism." he then added, "he is also the president's choice." ryan, it has been interesting to watch the back and forth on hagel's nomination as far as how -- we'll focus on republicans thus far have treated it, which is to say they all say, you know, we'll wait until the hearing. we want to give him a fair trial, but there's no way i'm voting for him. the question is out there. can he even have a fair trial at this point? >> right. we'll give hi trial first and
susan rice was too much of a loyalist, and republicans called for someone of independence. chuck hagel, however, has too much of his own voice and is outside of the mainstream. while it remains unclear whether anyone will ever be just right for the gop, perhaps a party nay sayers have forgotten the fundamental truth about this nomination. for his part robert gates, former defense secretary under george w. bush and president obama has not. speaking to hagel's nomination gates said, "while...
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a little bit tvd, it's not -- it us 23409 does not appear as serious as the would be nomination of susan rice to secretary of state, which john mccain and several other prominent republicans were saying, absolutely not, i'm a no vote. you heard that mccain was agnostic on this. i don't think there's quite the same level of an mouse that republicans had toward rice. and my read of it right now is what hagel needs to do is kind of make almost what you would call an apology, go around to a bunch of members, clarify prior remarks that he's made, make clear his position on key issues like israel and iran. he's probably going to have to get a little closer to the president's public position and allay some concerns about some things he said which i think at times involved not very smart choice of words. i think that ought to do it. i think, you know, senator schumer probably doesn't want to be a no to bring down a presidential nominee at this point. i think schumer needs to demonstrate he asked some tough questions. i think hagel can get pass it it if he has some good meetings and he essentiall
a little bit tvd, it's not -- it us 23409 does not appear as serious as the would be nomination of susan rice to secretary of state, which john mccain and several other prominent republicans were saying, absolutely not, i'm a no vote. you heard that mccain was agnostic on this. i don't think there's quite the same level of an mouse that republicans had toward rice. and my read of it right now is what hagel needs to do is kind of make almost what you would call an apology, go around to a bunch...
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he didn't work for susan rice. we don't know what she knew about security. spinning a story afterwards. jay carney, how credulous they are about the story. carney, the highly politicized issue. not political if you ask the administration to explain what happened. what happened during the hours? what about the solution is that as a close advisor to the president on terrorism, what was the president engaged in, in the seven hours in what did brennan know? what did he tell the president? were orders >> i were they carried out? there is so much unknown here. i'm not surprised we have let go the only suspect. we know the leader of the attack was a certain, katala. seen a few days later in a coffee shop outside benghazi. he remains unmolested to benghazi today. the administration wants to pretend it's political. it's not. it's to seek out what happened. >> bret: the other thing that this potentially does in the context of this hearing on brennan is open up the door to al-qaeda. the strength of al-qaeda in the region. strength that perhaps it's stronger than the ad
he didn't work for susan rice. we don't know what she knew about security. spinning a story afterwards. jay carney, how credulous they are about the story. carney, the highly politicized issue. not political if you ask the administration to explain what happened. what happened during the hours? what about the solution is that as a close advisor to the president on terrorism, what was the president engaged in, in the seven hours in what did brennan know? what did he tell the president? were...
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we thought it was susan rice for secretary of state. not surprising for a president who won an election to decide to pick one or two big personnel fights. that happens in politics. think think -- the white house calculation, jim's dead right about the iraq war. if we have to re-debate the iraq war, they're on the high ground for that one and hearing criticism he's soft. normally when a democrat does that, they want someone that's tough because the criticism historically is they're soft on defense and here's a republican choice labeled as soft, soft on israel and soft coming to iran sanctions. john mccain and other conservatives say soft with the end of the iraq war and the president's comfortable with him and comfortable with the new cia chief. the president doesn't have to face re-election. this is the second term a different set of calculations and thinks he has work to do, diplomacy. they think they'll win in the end. >> i want to ask you about hagel's israel comments because he made some pretty pointed comments about israel and goin
we thought it was susan rice for secretary of state. not surprising for a president who won an election to decide to pick one or two big personnel fights. that happens in politics. think think -- the white house calculation, jim's dead right about the iraq war. if we have to re-debate the iraq war, they're on the high ground for that one and hearing criticism he's soft. normally when a democrat does that, they want someone that's tough because the criticism historically is they're soft on...
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would have done it again were it not for republican opposition to susan rice. and so i think you'd have to be really fair about how we paint this portrait of what's happening. >> okay. i think those are all fair points. but, rosa, one thing that strikes me is when you look at any organization, let's take the white house, the cabinet. there's all kinds of positions that are quote unquote management. there's more vps in most companies than there are mds and it keeps going up. when you look at the fence, the cia and state and treasury, there's no women. now, to charles' point he was going to try to nominate susan rice and he had hillary clinton there but does he need a woman in one of those positions? >> i sure think it would be nice to see a woman in one of those positions. i think charles' point, it's obviously fair that almost half of the presidential appointees overall have been women, but when you look at the top, you see a really different story and this is not unique to the government. this is true in fortune 500 corporations. this is true in education. no
would have done it again were it not for republican opposition to susan rice. and so i think you'd have to be really fair about how we paint this portrait of what's happening. >> okay. i think those are all fair points. but, rosa, one thing that strikes me is when you look at any organization, let's take the white house, the cabinet. there's all kinds of positions that are quote unquote management. there's more vps in most companies than there are mds and it keeps going up. when you look...
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i think that appointment should go to susan rice for what he did to her. he never supported an african-american. he did the same thing to shirley sarratt. i consider obama a weak president. he has no fight in him. >> bill: i appreciate the comment, derek. i'm sorry that he decided not to fight for susan rice. but i think he learned his lesson. he certainly is going to fight for chuck hagel. he made that very clear yesterday. the white house has launched a "full court press" to borrow a phrase. and i think you're going to see -- i think you'll see chuck hagel confirmed don't you igor? >> key thing is you saw apec sit this one out. they're not weighing in. that's a big help from israel's side of this entire controversy. i think they'll be able to hold it. >> bill: it will be tough for republicans to vote against a republican war hero american patriot. >> i was going to say john mccain can bluster all he wants now. when it comes down to it, he's going to look like an ass if he votes against him. >> wouldn't be the first time. >> good point. >> bill: you peopl
i think that appointment should go to susan rice for what he did to her. he never supported an african-american. he did the same thing to shirley sarratt. i consider obama a weak president. he has no fight in him. >> bill: i appreciate the comment, derek. i'm sorry that he decided not to fight for susan rice. but i think he learned his lesson. he certainly is going to fight for chuck hagel. he made that very clear yesterday. the white house has launched a "full court press" to...
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very much against susan rice. i find it hard to believe mccain's going to be against chuck hagel, given the kind of bonds that they have. >> chuck hagel was against john mccain in 2008. >> i'm not saying they weren't against each other on policy matters. we're talking about a confirmation here. >> didn't he endorse barack obama? >> i think he spoke favorably of him. >> i don't think he endorsed him. >> unofficial surrogate. >> again, this is a confirmation hearing where the senate dgives deference to the president. mcconnell, around this "politico" story with quotes from mcconnell's farewell speech to hagel where he points out that hagel saved mcconnell's brother in vietnam, so we're not really sure. and singing his praises. >> that's only in the movie version. >> it's going to be hard for mcconnell to oppose him vocally here. >> that kind of sums everything up because if you watched yesterday's "meet the press," i mean, all this talk last week about the president's personality being difficult and unapproachable a
very much against susan rice. i find it hard to believe mccain's going to be against chuck hagel, given the kind of bonds that they have. >> chuck hagel was against john mccain in 2008. >> i'm not saying they weren't against each other on policy matters. we're talking about a confirmation here. >> didn't he endorse barack obama? >> i think he spoke favorably of him. >> i don't think he endorsed him. >> unofficial surrogate. >> again, this is a...
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having lost susan rice. host: gary schmitt and steve clemons. good morning, democrats line. caller: i am a text that ryan and i support chuck hagel 100%. i do not know why our leaders have to vetted by israel. they have not been rational at all. any time somebody says anything about israel, the first thing they are labeled as anti- semitic. host: this is from the hearing that took place back in 1998. the secretary of state in the clinton administration. it is a broad overview of the middle east in the effort -- in the arab world -- [video clip] >> i have just come back from a lot of the gulf states. i came back with the following set of impressions. first of all, they are very concerned about what is going on in iraq. they understand that the problems of weapons of mass destruction and the fact that they do threaten them, that it is less visible than a cross border threat. second, they are fully convinced that this crisis has been created by saddam hussein. they are concerned about the iraqi people. which is why we support this oil for feud plan -- oil for food plan. they pr
having lost susan rice. host: gary schmitt and steve clemons. good morning, democrats line. caller: i am a text that ryan and i support chuck hagel 100%. i do not know why our leaders have to vetted by israel. they have not been rational at all. any time somebody says anything about israel, the first thing they are labeled as anti- semitic. host: this is from the hearing that took place back in 1998. the secretary of state in the clinton administration. it is a broad overview of the middle east...
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the president is considering a new job for ambassador to the united nations susan rice. may become the next national security advisor if all the appointments are confirmed. we will have carried out an almost total revamping of his national security team. >> confident that judge will be an outstanding secretary of defense and brennan will be an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency. may understand that we are only successful because of the folks up and down the line in these respective institutions. the folks on the ground who are oftentimes putting their lives at risk for us. and oftentimes removed from washington and politics. lou: some members of the party expressing consternation about his election because of controversial statements on the israeli reluctance. among the reason for that concern and in some cases outright opposition. seven of the 12 republican members of the armed services committee expressing some opposition with at least three senators already saying they will vote no. senator david fisher saying, i will be a no-vote and on the floor
the president is considering a new job for ambassador to the united nations susan rice. may become the next national security advisor if all the appointments are confirmed. we will have carried out an almost total revamping of his national security team. >> confident that judge will be an outstanding secretary of defense and brennan will be an outstanding director of the central intelligence agency. may understand that we are only successful because of the folks up and down the line in...
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. >>> unlike the backlash against the possible nomination of susan rice, opposition to president obama's nomination of chuck hagel is coming from both side was of the political divide. as some democrats voice concerns over hagel's positions on a wide range of issue, one of them is joining me now. democratic congressman adam schiff who has tough questions for chuck hagel. sir, great to have you with me. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee you've challenged hagel's nomination to head the pentagon. we've heard certain reasons why and they've been floated out there, but what are yours specificsly? >> i think there are two issues that senator hagel will have to address, and i think his fate is in his own hands. i think he's likely to be confirmed and it is not a slam dunk and he'll have to answer tough questions on iran, principally. he has written and said in the past that he can tolerate potentially a nuclear-powered, a nuclear-armed iran and that is certainly at odds with most of the members if not all of the members of congress. he has opposed some of the nun lateral sa
. >>> unlike the backlash against the possible nomination of susan rice, opposition to president obama's nomination of chuck hagel is coming from both side was of the political divide. as some democrats voice concerns over hagel's positions on a wide range of issue, one of them is joining me now. democratic congressman adam schiff who has tough questions for chuck hagel. sir, great to have you with me. as a senior member of the house intelligence committee you've challenged hagel's...
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he wanted to nominate susan rice. i won't beat him up on this. he hates women, trying to take away the -- he said that romney caused cancer in one woman. the attacks were absurd. >> bob: there are 3,500 political appointees in the administration. in that neighborhood. i would bet you, i asked them for this but i didn't get an answer because i'm last in line to get answers. i bet there are more women appointees than any other administration. >> kimberly: talk about this. can i get a full screen up. women in the cabinet. look at this. obama, nine through his first term. george w. bush, ten. clinton, 17. oh, clinton is the winner again. >> andrea: why does it matter like eric said, it's about who is qualified. >> eric: that is unfair. put the full screen back up. put the full screen back up. nine through the first term. so if he, if valerie jarret leaves and soliz leaves and replace it with two more females. >> dana: elaine chow served for the entire eight years as the secretary of labor. >> bob: that is an unusual situation. >> kimberly: guys, this
he wanted to nominate susan rice. i won't beat him up on this. he hates women, trying to take away the -- he said that romney caused cancer in one woman. the attacks were absurd. >> bob: there are 3,500 political appointees in the administration. in that neighborhood. i would bet you, i asked them for this but i didn't get an answer because i'm last in line to get answers. i bet there are more women appointees than any other administration. >> kimberly: talk about this. can i get a...
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i see the way he abandoned susan rice not the deal with it and they don't want to burn political capital on the bandwidth, but hagel will be okay, and there is going to be a lot of hue and cry, but i don't believe he will be abandoned. >> and what about susan rice to have this fight with hagel and brought up a whole set of concerns here whether or not the president's second ed administration is going to be less diverse than the first administration. we heard carney response sponding to the the claims earlier this week. >> well, janet napolitano is the secretary of homeland security, an cabinet level and the ambassador is susan rice, and this president has made two appointments to the supreme court, and both of them women. his commitment to dwsh. >> do you believe it is an unfair sgharnlg. >> well, the record speaks for itself. >> it is a good point and bad point, because when you can list the women on your hand, there are not enough women, like -- >> get a binder. >> i have a whole handful of women, and that alone makes you go, no, no, wrong answer, like, right, don't start naming them,
i see the way he abandoned susan rice not the deal with it and they don't want to burn political capital on the bandwidth, but hagel will be okay, and there is going to be a lot of hue and cry, but i don't believe he will be abandoned. >> and what about susan rice to have this fight with hagel and brought up a whole set of concerns here whether or not the president's second ed administration is going to be less diverse than the first administration. we heard carney response sponding to...
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david axelrod wanted me to say -- i think this is fair -- about susan rice. he said i never said -- never said that the president had never considered susan rice, said he had considered her, but he had just never heard that that was his choice. so -- >> i had heard he really wanted her for the position and really considering her from other people. but, you know what, since you bring it up, we love this show. we had a great heated conversation at the top of the 6:00 about -- numbers of -- >> binders. >> about the numbers of women serving in the president's cabin cabinet. i actually have a list of high-ranking women in the white house. but i'm going to hold that. >> good, read that. >> you know what -- there are good points to be made on both sides of this. this is one of the biggest arguments we ever had. some of the bigger ones, torture -- you were right on that. >> wrong on that one. >> i will say i did use a bad word perfect tank you and i'm very sorry about that because you are not chauvinistic. of all the people that work here at msnbc, you are not a chau
david axelrod wanted me to say -- i think this is fair -- about susan rice. he said i never said -- never said that the president had never considered susan rice, said he had considered her, but he had just never heard that that was his choice. so -- >> i had heard he really wanted her for the position and really considering her from other people. but, you know what, since you bring it up, we love this show. we had a great heated conversation at the top of the 6:00 about -- numbers of --...
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he did try to get susan rice before senator kerry took it. i think you raised a legitimate point as he continues his nominations. take for example the transportation. he has an ideal choice here to pick a woman, a republican. senator hutchison from texas who really understands the infrastructure challenges of our nation. and i think as a republican can help us raise money in public-private ventures. understanding government can't get the $100 billion needed for our roads that need repair and enhancement. we have to do it like the state of illinois did. city of chicago did. do private-public ventures. but the president did appoint two people who were women to the supreme court. but i do think this is a legitimate point as he continues on. >> hogan, i'm curious about the debt ceiling fight. we know that is looming. it is expected to get nasty. how much do you think the republicans are going to take on the president, take on the democrats? you see what senator harry reid did. he wrote a letter to the president saying listen you have our support.
he did try to get susan rice before senator kerry took it. i think you raised a legitimate point as he continues his nominations. take for example the transportation. he has an ideal choice here to pick a woman, a republican. senator hutchison from texas who really understands the infrastructure challenges of our nation. and i think as a republican can help us raise money in public-private ventures. understanding government can't get the $100 billion needed for our roads that need repair and...
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they all but nominated kerry them when beating up on susan rice. it would be heart to double back on him now. >> john: somewhere scott brown is washing his truck. charles pierce, so great to have you on the program. >> thanks, john, i appreciate it. >> john: thank you, for now on what president obama hopes to accomplish in his second temperature i'm happy to be joined by current tv correspondent david shuster and eric boehlert scene fellow with media matters for america. what does he have a better chance of pushing through. >> i think he has a greater chance on gun control and charles was right. it will make the heads explode on the right and make banning assault weapons closing gun show loops holes would seem reasonable. i think that sets the president up in a pretty good negotiating position. >> john: what track record do you think he'll be willing to ruffle executive orders. >> the haguethe hagueel,the republicans made it clear they didn't want chuck hagel. the president said here is my republican. beat him up. go show america that they won't ev
they all but nominated kerry them when beating up on susan rice. it would be heart to double back on him now. >> john: somewhere scott brown is washing his truck. charles pierce, so great to have you on the program. >> thanks, john, i appreciate it. >> john: thank you, for now on what president obama hopes to accomplish in his second temperature i'm happy to be joined by current tv correspondent david shuster and eric boehlert scene fellow with media matters for america. what...
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you had susan rice, you've had all of these way out attacks on the attorney genric holder. are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of the president. >> governor, when you look at john mccane, for example, john mccain says he has concerns about hagel's positions on national security issues today. but in 2006, when he was plotting a run for the presidency, mccain said i'd be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. same john mccain. mitch mcconnell who says there will be tough questions for hagel. >>> is john mccain just a bitter man because president obama beat him and he's just bitter and keeps attacking whatever the president does and mitch mcconnell is still trying to live up
you had susan rice, you've had all of these way out attacks on the attorney genric holder. are they trying this with hagel? why is it no matter what this president nominates, they find a reason to fight it. >> i think this is the next front, you know. they didn't do so well on the fiscal cliff. now they've got to find another partisan opening. i think it's a partisan attack. i think it's designed to help them raise money to strengthen their party's position from the mainstream position of...
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susan rice would have been secretary of state if the republicans hadn't attacked her -- >> hold on. i've been hearing that all week. i heard an interview, i was screaming at the television saying, people don't look when they're looking for the best qualified -- that is a bunch of crap. if you go to any h.r., anyone who's looking for any type of person to fill a job, they talk about everything, hair color, eye color, i need a black woman for this. we need a black man for that. and for an african-american, the first black president of the united states not to understand the optics of this is ridiculous. i think he's getting off the hook. he should have the most diverse staff of anyone ever. >> i'm with you on more diversity. if this was a republican, people on the left -- >> they would eat their lunch. it's embarrassing. >> but maybe this is because he knows this is white people's last hoorah. by 2045, white people will be in the majority. >> i know you're joking. but this has perturbed me for a long time. i think people have let the administration off the hook and they shouldn't be l
susan rice would have been secretary of state if the republicans hadn't attacked her -- >> hold on. i've been hearing that all week. i heard an interview, i was screaming at the television saying, people don't look when they're looking for the best qualified -- that is a bunch of crap. if you go to any h.r., anyone who's looking for any type of person to fill a job, they talk about everything, hair color, eye color, i need a black woman for this. we need a black man for that. and for an...
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they fiercely oppose potential picks for obama's cabinet from susan rice, of course, to people who withdrew to people who had strong gop support up until they were affiliated with president obama like chuck hagel and jack lew and republicans delayed 85% of the planned relief funding for hurricane sandy. that, of course, drew a strong rebuke from republican governor chris christie. this is not politics devoted to a competing vision. this is politics devoted to digs corruption and obstruction, and those recent fights i mentioned don't even include the explosion of minority obstruction in the u.s. senate. the filibuster has been used against more of obama's legislation than any president in history. the bottom line is that the gop is exploiting what i think is a hole in our democracy. can you lose elections and still get your way now if you don't care about responsibly governing. of course, it's hard to get voters to notice this kind of thing, but i believe obama has a big opportunity at the inauguration. he can call for more than just broad patriotism or vague unity. he can call out the amora
they fiercely oppose potential picks for obama's cabinet from susan rice, of course, to people who withdrew to people who had strong gop support up until they were affiliated with president obama like chuck hagel and jack lew and republicans delayed 85% of the planned relief funding for hurricane sandy. that, of course, drew a strong rebuke from republican governor chris christie. this is not politics devoted to a competing vision. this is politics devoted to digs corruption and obstruction,...
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look at susan rice. i think the fact the republicans are aiming at one of their own, at chuck hagel, is really an astonishing sort of symbol of where we're at in terms of finding bipartisanship, that that would be smacked down by the republican party. >> we were talking about this yesterday on the show, of all the people the president has nominated so far, you would think john brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can look at all these candidates, hagel and lew, mainstream candidates who represent the president's positions flawlessly, are a stark contrast with the bush administration, therefore the republicans might have beef with him, but that's just not happening. we're being surprised when clearly it's part of a broader strategy to discredit the very idea of government. yes, the polls show that congress is more unpopular than head lice. >> and cockroaches. >> nickelback. >> castro still slightly more unpopular, but i think they can fix that
look at susan rice. i think the fact the republicans are aiming at one of their own, at chuck hagel, is really an astonishing sort of symbol of where we're at in terms of finding bipartisanship, that that would be smacked down by the republican party. >> we were talking about this yesterday on the show, of all the people the president has nominated so far, you would think john brennan would be the most controversial. he's the one no one is talking about. >> that's right. you can...
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susan rice did in those sunday talk shows. there was this deleted reference to al qaeda involvement which was in the classified version. it was taken out when used by ambassador rice and senator graham has questions about who changed that. the intelligence committee has spoken to this. they said that they changed it and more specifically that the cia changed those talking points but senator graham is not satisfied. he says he has more questions before john brennan is confirmed and while he's not on the senate's committee on intelligence, he could hold up the nomination. >> and we're going to be speaking in the next hour to senator john mccain. he still has a lot of serious questions about benghazi as well. thanks very much. >>> the boeing 787 is called the boeing dreamliner but why it's not so dreamy. why one flight was canceled today just as it was about to take off. hmmm. uh... yeah, can you find a take where it's a bit more dramatic on that last line, yeah? yeah i got it right here. someone help me!!! i have a flat tire!!!
susan rice did in those sunday talk shows. there was this deleted reference to al qaeda involvement which was in the classified version. it was taken out when used by ambassador rice and senator graham has questions about who changed that. the intelligence committee has spoken to this. they said that they changed it and more specifically that the cia changed those talking points but senator graham is not satisfied. he says he has more questions before john brennan is confirmed and while he's...
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he was willing to take on susan rice for a while. that one ended up getting too difficult and she stepped aside but the president's got an attitude of i've been vindicated by the election and the record in the first term. i got bin laden, i wound down wars unpopular and he has a -- is looking at republicans and saying, you guys were smack talking me for a couple of years and you had the tea party in 2010 and you thought i was back on my heels but i've just been vindicated by the voters in the election with 51% and i'm going to try to impose my will as much as i can. >> chuck hagel and john kerry, the politico today, their headline story, points to how formidable these two might be for many reasons but, again, both being vietnam veterans and how this could with the president's agenda and strategy set the stage for wars in the future or the avoid answer of military footprint on the ground and the years ahead, john. >> well, i think to some degree the latter, tamron, is the relevant point here. the term vietnam veteran brings with it th
he was willing to take on susan rice for a while. that one ended up getting too difficult and she stepped aside but the president's got an attitude of i've been vindicated by the election and the record in the first term. i got bin laden, i wound down wars unpopular and he has a -- is looking at republicans and saying, you guys were smack talking me for a couple of years and you had the tea party in 2010 and you thought i was back on my heels but i've just been vindicated by the voters in the...
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we still don't know why susan rice was really chosen to do those sunday show appearance. we don't know why the f.b.i. didn't appear in benghazi for many weeks. we don't know why we don't have people really in custody. all the people who were leading that attack. why are they? i think we've lot of questions. i don't think brennan really is going to be stopped. i think he's going to be confirmed. he's had a long career in public service. one more thing, remember after the bin laden successful hit, brennan came out that monday and he did a briefing, he said it was the gutsiest call he had ever seen a president do. then he went on to talk about operational details of what happened during the assault on the compound. remember, the secretary of defense at the time, gates, was livid at brennan for having released those operational details to the press that monday. i think that question needs to be asked. c.i.a. director who apparently didn't have any problem releasing the details of what happened in that compound. that was very interesting. >> gretchen: the other interesting par
we still don't know why susan rice was really chosen to do those sunday show appearance. we don't know why the f.b.i. didn't appear in benghazi for many weeks. we don't know why we don't have people really in custody. all the people who were leading that attack. why are they? i think we've lot of questions. i don't think brennan really is going to be stopped. i think he's going to be confirmed. he's had a long career in public service. one more thing, remember after the bin laden successful...
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susan rice went on tv blaming it on a movie trailer. only two weeks later they finally acknowledged it was organized attack. during that two weeks most of the evidence on the ground became polluted or some way tarnished. we have to reconstruct the entire situation. we need to find out who knew what when and why the culture of pushback. bill: where is that trail of evidence do you believe? how will you determine whether or not the 7th floor of the state department which is where secretary clinton works, was aware of that question and knew that answer? >> well, the secretary's going to testify and i'm glad her health is better. i'm glad her concussion's better and we're glad she is coming back but we need to know the answer to the question, bill. why the information didn't make it and if it did make it why there wasn't response for more security in benghazi for chris stevens. bill: listen to this in the hours after the attack at the white house. >> today we mourn four more americans who represent the very best of the united states of amer
susan rice went on tv blaming it on a movie trailer. only two weeks later they finally acknowledged it was organized attack. during that two weeks most of the evidence on the ground became polluted or some way tarnished. we have to reconstruct the entire situation. we need to find out who knew what when and why the culture of pushback. bill: where is that trail of evidence do you believe? how will you determine whether or not the 7th floor of the state department which is where secretary...
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john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing although i believe part of it is personal and this element they do have very different world views now. >> which is why the confirmation hearing and his answers will be that much more critical than earlier. >> they also, as you mentioned, harold, reservations from democrats with members of the party stopping short of offering hagel a full throated endorsement. senator chuck schumer of new york released a statement reading in part quote chuck hagel has earned the right to nothing less than a full and fair process in the senate. i look forward to fully studying his record and exploring his views. at the white
john mccain has been a politician drought his career driven by personal grudges -- >> like susan rice? >> yes. that was another case part of what was driving him. in this case, i do think part of what he would say, if he were here, back to the policy point, there's no greater champion of the iraq war and surge and everything that happened after that than john mccain was and no greater critic of that than republican chuck hagel. he would make the case it is not just a personal thing...
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rice and ended up not picking her. do you view this as a political move to try to win a fight with republicans? >> no, absolutely not. this is someone that the president inherently trusts, and this is one of the most important positions in the administration. so the president needs someone that he has faith is going to be able to preside over a transformation of our military, right? this is going to be one of the most important four-year periods of time in our military's history over the past several decades. we're going to be withdrawing from afghanistan. we're going to be figuring out our new footprint in the world, and the president trusts chuck hagel. and to try to make this sound like it's a pick outside of the mainstream is absolutely ridiculous. chuck hagel has been widely regarded as one of the smartest people on defense and national security issues on both sides of the aisle. many of his colleagues, who right now are contemplating voting against him in the united states senate have wonderful things to say abou
rice and ended up not picking her. do you view this as a political move to try to win a fight with republicans? >> no, absolutely not. this is someone that the president inherently trusts, and this is one of the most important positions in the administration. so the president needs someone that he has faith is going to be able to preside over a transformation of our military, right? this is going to be one of the most important four-year periods of time in our military's history over the...
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yeah, please do that after you fought against susan rice. and please -- >> you ask why there aren't women in the inner circle. >> and by the way, there's going to be a gun debate coming up. and if republicans take an extremist stance and instead of fighting for handguns and fighting for the right to keep and bear, you know, hunting weapons and the right to keep and bear arms, instead fight for these massive clips, these high-capacity magazine clips and assault weapons, 2014, you've put all of this stuff together, jon meacham, 2014 is going to be a rough year for the republican party. i said '12 was moving them toward wig status. if they continue to be the party of extreme ideas and extreme factions instead of the party of balanced budgets, the party of less taxes, the party of less regulation, the party of more economic freedom, then they're going to get -- seriously, they are going to move one step closer to political oblivion. >> yeah. i still think it's really important to look at the analogy of the democratic party which spent so much ti
yeah, please do that after you fought against susan rice. and please -- >> you ask why there aren't women in the inner circle. >> and by the way, there's going to be a gun debate coming up. and if republicans take an extremist stance and instead of fighting for handguns and fighting for the right to keep and bear, you know, hunting weapons and the right to keep and bear arms, instead fight for these massive clips, these high-capacity magazine clips and assault weapons, 2014, you've...
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and also these visits to capitol hill which hurt susan rice so badly. the white house believes they'll have the opposite effect for senator hagel, that is he meets with senator schumer and others as they're reminded of this personal story that these other issues will fade away. >> you know, i mean, what he did for mitch mcconnell's entire - extended family, according to john heilemann. >> poor heilmann. >> i've got to ask, what was mitch mcconnell's grandma doing in saigon at the time during the tete offense? >> she went to see her son. >> and then he saved them all, according to john heilemann. >> in one fell swoop. >> exactly. >> i'd love to talk to one of these republicans one day who is against hagel, a guy who fought a war, a guy who's got shrapnel in his chest, who understands. >> those are the same guys i was talking about at the top of the hour. >> i know chuck and i like him very much. chuck's got really short elbows. you know, it's not -- and i've had some republican senators tell me, it's not the way he voted or how he -- you know, he seemed
and also these visits to capitol hill which hurt susan rice so badly. the white house believes they'll have the opposite effect for senator hagel, that is he meets with senator schumer and others as they're reminded of this personal story that these other issues will fade away. >> you know, i mean, what he did for mitch mcconnell's entire - extended family, according to john heilemann. >> poor heilmann. >> i've got to ask, what was mitch mcconnell's grandma doing in saigon at...
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ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. and, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court, both of them women. and i think that his commitment to -- >> you think it's an unfair charge? >> well, i think that the record speaks for itself, and certainly, that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broader administration. and i think, again, i would urge everyone who only got to the headline of the photograph to read the story, because the story documents that the comparative here with not just president bush and the increase in the representation of women in senior positions is dramatic; it's consistent with or greater than president clinton's staff as well. and when it comes to judges, 47 percent of president obama's confirmed judges -- and we have an issue with confirmation here with senate as you know -- but the 47 percent of those who have been confirmed have been women compared to 22 percent for president george w. bush and 29 percent for presi
ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. and, again, i could go through the list. this president has appointed -- has made two appointments to the supreme court, both of them women. and i think that his commitment to -- >> you think it's an unfair charge? >> well, i think that the record speaks for itself, and certainly, that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broader administration. and i think, again, i would urge...
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susan rice can stay in at u.n. but you want to get a few more. you might see more women becoming assistant secretaries, high-level ambassadorships on the foreign policy front and i think you'll find a woman finding a spot in one of the domestic cabinet posts. but it's, i think, the president felt he had to pick the people that were best and their names were kerry, brennan and hagel, after he floated rice around a little and she didn't track. >> because of the movie "lincoln" that's been out and doris concerns good win's book "team of rivals," obama's cabinet picks now for a second term are the least team of rivals ever. explain that a bit. >> yes. i mean these are a team of friends. i don't blame the president. look, you're in the second term now, you've won a big election like he did. you don't want to have to constantly pick the political choice. you want the person you think can get the job done. chuck hagel is not afraid to slash defense budgets. you really need a veteran to do that. the first secretary of defense a v vietnam war veteran. hag
susan rice can stay in at u.n. but you want to get a few more. you might see more women becoming assistant secretaries, high-level ambassadorships on the foreign policy front and i think you'll find a woman finding a spot in one of the domestic cabinet posts. but it's, i think, the president felt he had to pick the people that were best and their names were kerry, brennan and hagel, after he floated rice around a little and she didn't track. >> because of the movie "lincoln"...
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imagine what the stories would look like now if susan rice had been nominated to be secretary of state and michelle florinoi was the first defense secretary. >> i'm told that they are looking for a woman for commerce. i'm sure they are all very qualified. and then you say, oh, they needed a woman and they are putting that woman in a job because she's a woman. well, that's not a good storyline for them. >> or for people like you and me. >> right. exactly. and then the other question i have is, how much does the president, the top people listen to the women who are there? is it a question of numbers of women or is it a question of influence of women? i mean, you could argue that valley jarrett is the closest person on the senior staff to the president, long time friend close to the president and close to the first lady but how much do the -- two of the three deputies chief of staff are women. what's their impact? >> i can't tell you, ruth, how many democratic women have whispered, said to me -- and they are pretty upset about this -- why does the president decide to fight for chuck hagel
imagine what the stories would look like now if susan rice had been nominated to be secretary of state and michelle florinoi was the first defense secretary. >> i'm told that they are looking for a woman for commerce. i'm sure they are all very qualified. and then you say, oh, they needed a woman and they are putting that woman in a job because she's a woman. well, that's not a good storyline for them. >> or for people like you and me. >> right. exactly. and then the other...
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the ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. again i could go through the list. this president has made two appointments to the supreme court. both of them were women. and i'd think his commitment to -- >> [inaudible] >> well i think the record speaks for itself, and certainly that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broad administration. and i think, again, i would urge everyone who only got to the head line of the photograph to read the story. the story documents the comparative here with not just president bush and i compare the increase was representation of women in senior positions is dramatic. it is consistent with or greater than president clinton's staff as well. and when it comes to judges, 47% of president obama's confirm the judges, and we have an issue with confirmation in the senate as you know, but 47% of those confirmed have been women compared to 22% for president george w. bush and 29% for president clinton. so i think the record here speaks for itself. >> when you say the totality, the others
the ambassador to the united nations is susan rice. again i could go through the list. this president has made two appointments to the supreme court. both of them were women. and i'd think his commitment to -- >> [inaudible] >> well i think the record speaks for itself, and certainly that photograph is not reflective of the diversity within the white house staff or within the broad administration. and i think, again, i would urge everyone who only got to the head line of the...
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next event is lisa rice, vice president of the national fair housing alliance. then alys cohen, staff attorney for the national consumer law center. and then if i move all the way to my right inside, susan wachter who is a professor for state and finance at wharton school at the university of pennsylvania. david moskowitz is deputy general counsel at wells fargo, and karen thomas, senior executive vice president of government relations at the independent community bankers association of america. thank you all for being here. and perhaps we might start with you, mr. calhoun. >> thank you. today, the cfpb announces one of its most important rules, a qualified mortgage ability-to-repay rule, along with the upcoming mortgage servicing rules that will come out next week, address failures in the mortgage market, the devastated -- a devastating millions of families and our overall economic. twin drivers of this were widespread, unaffordable loans, and a broken mortgage servicing system that severely aggravated the ensuing wave of foreclosures. the goal of the dodd-fran
next event is lisa rice, vice president of the national fair housing alliance. then alys cohen, staff attorney for the national consumer law center. and then if i move all the way to my right inside, susan wachter who is a professor for state and finance at wharton school at the university of pennsylvania. david moskowitz is deputy general counsel at wells fargo, and karen thomas, senior executive vice president of government relations at the independent community bankers association of...